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Old Aug 04, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #21
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I've said this in other Sardelac posts - I'm up for anything that throws the game a curveball nowadays. They've already halfway implemented it, I would love to see stuff like this put in.

/signed for every last one of them.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #22
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I voted no...
My reasons:
1) You shouldn't add a skill just because "It's badass" and "the icon looks good" The skills Shiro has balance each other out, by making him stronger in one way but more susceptible to other things. If every skill in Guild Wars was added just because of their appearance and effect, it wouldn't be a very good game.
2) To be honest, Shiro is hard enough as it is, it can take a good few attempts sometimes to get the masters on that mission, especially with PUGs.
3) The skill itself, the skill LOOKS like it could be really fragile (not an experts diagnosis there), and there could be countless bugs that could arise making the mission nearly impossible.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58   #23
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Shiro is tough as it is; he shouldn't be any more difficult (Hard Mode or Normal Mode) than he already is.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #24
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Shiro is tough as it is; he shouldn't be any more difficult (Hard Mode or Normal Mode) than he already is.
No he isn't. He is a mediocre boss. Take Anti Melee. Hooray you win.

Anyone saying no clearly doesn't understand what badass means. I mean come on, badassery sells games. Clearly. Plus the icon is cool. I bet that's why they cut the skill, the icon is so cool and badass, the skill monitor explodes upon displaying it.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #25
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2) To be honest, Shiro is hard enough as it is, it can take a good few attempts sometimes to get the masters on that mission, especially with PUGs.
Shiro is cake if you're not bad.

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3) The skill itself, the skill LOOKS like it could be really fragile (not an experts diagnosis there), and there could be countless bugs that could arise making the mission nearly impossible.
Bugs are ment to be fixed, and 10 seconds is more than enough to wand him.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09   #26
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I voted no. You don't add a skill because it looks cool.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11   #27
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No he isn't. He is a mediocre boss. Take Anti Melee. Hooray you win.
*sighs* I'm soooooooooooo sorry, Mr. Elite! I find him almost impossible (almost because I actually did beat him with my Assassin "solo"), but obviously I'm such a NEEEEEEEEEEEWB at this game. Maybe I should bow down to you.

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Anyone saying no clearly doesn't understand what badass means. I mean come on, badassery sells games. Clearly. Plus the icon is cool. I bet that's why they cut the skill, the icon is so cool and badass, the skill monitor explodes upon displaying it.
I can't decide whether to laugh or to roll my eyes...
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:17 PM // 16:17   #28
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On Shiro: YES PLEASE. Wild Blow should not lead to victolyyy, plus it sounds more fun.

On the rest: Holy shit that all looks awesome. Sign me up for Nightmare mode, please sir.

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voted no for the simple reason that i believe adding imbalanced moster-only skills is not the way you should go to make PvE "harder".

If they ever decide to add balanced monster groups and better AI, and it's still too easy, then you might consider adding imba skills.
Seeing as we've already seen more balanced and intelligent mobs in the later releases, the only way I'd be challenged at this point is from either balls-to-the-walls impossible AI or huge roadblocks.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19   #29
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He isn't being "Mr. Elite", he's being "Mr. Not Bad At The Game".

Seriously, Shiro is a joke of a boss and even moreso in Nightfall. Anti-melee wins against him full stop.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21   #30
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In NF for Shiro, all I did was kite.

Man, in retrospect that mission was soooo unepic.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #31
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He isn't being "Mr. Elite", he's being "Mr. Not Bad At The Game".
I'm not "bad at the game", even if I do say so myself; I'm just not an Elite.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #32
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I'm not "bad at the game", even if I do say so myself
Ahahaha. Wtb ego.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #33
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I'm not "bad at the game", even if I do say so myself; I'm just not an Elite.
TBH if you find Shiro almost impossible then you kinda are.

Just bring a couple of nec hereos with SV, SS and other melee hate. Also bring a derv hero with wild blow and wounding strike if you can't stop his stance yourself. Oh and bring the war hench, Storm of Swords rocks
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #34
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He isn't being "Mr. Elite", he's being "Mr. Not Bad At The Game".

Seriously, Shiro is a joke of a boss and even moreso in Nightfall. Anti-melee wins against him full stop.
Seriously, he's cake-pie

/signed to make him harder, I've beat him in under a minute before and probably less than 30 seconds
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36   #35
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/signed to make him harder

/notsighed to make him harder by giving him 5x more HP than god, an AOE that does 700 armor ignoring damage, a long distance AoE multi-condition strike, and invulnerability to non-silver weapons.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36   #36
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I want it on record that, as I stated in a previous post, I actually did defeat him with my Assassin (I think I actually did it in Hard Mode, not 100% sure, though, but I could always give it a try; been awhile since I've played my Assassin) on my own.
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39   #37
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I want it on record that, as I stated in a previous post, I actually did defeat him with my Assassin (I think I actually did it in Hard Mode, not 100% sure, though, but I could always give it a try; been awhile since I've played my Assassin) on my own.
All alone? That must have been hard with those "Solo Shiro" builds floating around eh? Just yanking your chain
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50   #38
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o_O; Ironically, no. I only took advice of my guild mates for my Assassin's build; it's a Death Blossom/Moebius Strike combo build. >_>
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Old Aug 04, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53   #39
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o_O; Ironically, no. I only took advice of my guild mates for my Assassin's build; it's a Death Blossom/Moebius Strike combo build. >_>
Wait... you're telling me that a PvE sin is actually playing a Death Blossom/Moebius Strike build, and doing well?!

We've got us an avant-garde trendsetter here, folks.

I'm just playin'.
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it's a Death Blossom/Moebius Strike combo build. >_>
ORIGINALITYYYYYY
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